Comments on: Up Yours Canada (En français pour les Québécois)! http://sojuandi.blogsome.com/2006/10/04/up-yours-canada-en-francais-pour-les-quebecois/ Sun, 09 Nov 2008 12:19:12 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=1.5.1-alpha by: The Goat http://sojuandi.blogsome.com/2006/10/04/up-yours-canada-en-francais-pour-les-quebecois/#comment-1210 Wed, 11 Oct 2006 20:25:34 +0100 http://sojuandi.blogsome.com/2006/10/04/up-yours-canada-en-francais-pour-les-quebecois/#comment-1210 A foreign country has a policy that is different from others...like wow. Earth shattering stuff there. Comparing it to Korea is rather asinine don't you think? Being different countries and all...with different policies regarding the release of private information. Not too mention that, well...you are not there. As for it being a stressful process, did you expect it to happen any differently? You could have also spared the regurgitation - I am far from pissed (in fact, I find the whole thing rather amusing) and am often first in line to bitch about Canada and Canadians in general. You chose to rant about something because it did not suit your specific needs in a timeframe suitable to you and you only. boo hoo. I could rant about dumbass Americans that are incapable of planning ahead to understand all the procedures necessary for a successful and stressfree emmigration process, but that would hardly make it true now, would it? Not too mention that it would not reflect my feelings on this subject nor on Americans in general. But I digress, if it makes you feel better to be hold an online tantrum, go nuts. I suppose it is better than kicking the dog or beating the wife. Too bad you said all you are going to say as it appears you still have some anger. Good luck. And that's all I'm going to say as well. A foreign country has a policy that is different from others…like wow. Earth shattering stuff there.

Comparing it to Korea is rather asinine don’t you think? Being different countries and all…with different policies regarding the release of private information. Not too mention that, well…you are not there.

As for it being a stressful process, did you expect it to happen any differently? You could have also spared the regurgitation - I am far from pissed (in fact, I find the whole thing rather amusing) and am often first in line to bitch about Canada and Canadians in general. You chose to rant about something because it did not suit your specific needs in a timeframe suitable to you and you only. boo hoo.

I could rant about dumbass Americans that are incapable of planning ahead to understand all the procedures necessary for a successful and stressfree emmigration process, but that would hardly make it true now, would it? Not too mention that it would not reflect my feelings on this subject nor on Americans in general.

But I digress, if it makes you feel better to be hold an online tantrum, go nuts. I suppose it is better than kicking the dog or beating the wife. Too bad you said all you are going to say as it appears you still have some anger.

Good luck. And that’s all I’m going to say as well.

]]> by: Wyatt http://sojuandi.blogsome.com/2006/10/04/up-yours-canada-en-francais-pour-les-quebecois/#comment-1208 Wed, 11 Oct 2006 19:46:26 +0100 http://sojuandi.blogsome.com/2006/10/04/up-yours-canada-en-francais-pour-les-quebecois/#comment-1208 That's exactly it! How fool-hearted of me to get pissed off about the fact that it took literally 35 minutes to get the same piece of paper processed in Korea. Yes I know that with the postal service things are going to take longer, but now that I've looked at it from your point of view 8, 15, hell...150 days really does seem like a reasonable ammount of time. I was pissed off that one's criminal record in Canada was not a matter of public record! That's what I was frustrated by! It couldn't have anything to do with the fact that immigrating is a stressful process to begin with, and when things start going poorly due to outside forces the level of stress increases. The only thing I can glean from your post is that you are pissed off that bad mouthed Canadian bureaucracy. You were right about one thing in your first comment, and that was that this was a rant. I was pissed off when I wrote it, writing it helped me to alleviate the stress, and that was the end of that. And that's all I'm going to say. That’s exactly it! How fool-hearted of me to get pissed off about the fact that it took literally 35 minutes to get the same piece of paper processed in Korea. Yes I know that with the postal service things are going to take longer, but now that I’ve looked at it from your point of view 8, 15, hell…150 days really does seem like a reasonable ammount of time. I was pissed off that one’s criminal record in Canada was not a matter of public record! That’s what I was frustrated by! It couldn’t have anything to do with the fact that immigrating is a stressful process to begin with, and when things start going poorly due to outside forces the level of stress increases.

The only thing I can glean from your post is that you are pissed off that bad mouthed Canadian bureaucracy. You were right about one thing in your first comment, and that was that this was a rant. I was pissed off when I wrote it, writing it helped me to alleviate the stress, and that was the end of that.

And that’s all I’m going to say.

]]> by: The Goat http://sojuandi.blogsome.com/2006/10/04/up-yours-canada-en-francais-pour-les-quebecois/#comment-1207 Wed, 11 Oct 2006 16:26:55 +0100 http://sojuandi.blogsome.com/2006/10/04/up-yours-canada-en-francais-pour-les-quebecois/#comment-1207 So basically, you expect all municipalities, not only to have the exact same procedure as each other, but also the same as those at the federal level? While that would be nice, I really don't see this happening any time soon. My example of 15 days was simply that...an example. So yes, it is right. So are the others. As for not going to Canada, that is not my concern nor is it the concern of the Canadian government - it would appear to be the concern of your government. The only thing I can glean out of this is that you are pissed as personal background information in Canada is not a matter of public record as it would appear to be in the States. So basically, you expect all municipalities, not only to have the exact same procedure as each other, but also the same as those at the federal level? While that would be nice, I really don’t see this happening any time soon.

My example of 15 days was simply that…an example. So yes, it is right. So are the others.

As for not going to Canada, that is not my concern nor is it the concern of the Canadian government - it would appear to be the concern of your government.

The only thing I can glean out of this is that you are pissed as personal background information in Canada is not a matter of public record as it would appear to be in the States.

]]> by: Wyatt http://sojuandi.blogsome.com/2006/10/04/up-yours-canada-en-francais-pour-les-quebecois/#comment-1205 Wed, 11 Oct 2006 12:01:34 +0100 http://sojuandi.blogsome.com/2006/10/04/up-yours-canada-en-francais-pour-les-quebecois/#comment-1205 It isn't silly when two different branches of the government tell you completely different stuff. One group says it would take 150 days and cost 55 dollars, another group says a week and 16 dollars...and then you appear and say it takes 15 days. Who's right? Everyone gave me different durations and prices, and no one had the actual forms I needed (the Royal Mounted Police will only mail the forms I need and only did so like 2 weeks after I requested them). Couple this with the fact that I'm not even trying to go to Canada, and how ultimately insignificant this actual document is, and I can't understand how anyone couldn't be annoyed. It isn’t silly when two different branches of the government tell you completely different stuff. One group says it would take 150 days and cost 55 dollars, another group says a week and 16 dollars…and then you appear and say it takes 15 days. Who’s right? Everyone gave me different durations and prices, and no one had the actual forms I needed (the Royal Mounted Police will only mail the forms I need and only did so like 2 weeks after I requested them). Couple this with the fact that I’m not even trying to go to Canada, and how ultimately insignificant this actual document is, and I can’t understand how anyone couldn’t be annoyed.

]]> by: The Goat http://sojuandi.blogsome.com/2006/10/04/up-yours-canada-en-francais-pour-les-quebecois/#comment-1203 Wed, 11 Oct 2006 08:56:03 +0100 http://sojuandi.blogsome.com/2006/10/04/up-yours-canada-en-francais-pour-les-quebecois/#comment-1203 Ranting about your inability to find the proper information is rather silly. While I am no fan of bureaucracy in any country, it is really not a difficult process that can be done in 15 days. Ranting about your inability to find the proper information is rather silly. While I am no fan of bureaucracy in any country, it is really not a difficult process that can be done in 15 days.

]]> by: Nathan B. http://sojuandi.blogsome.com/2006/10/04/up-yours-canada-en-francais-pour-les-quebecois/#comment-1195 Thu, 05 Oct 2006 17:00:12 +0100 http://sojuandi.blogsome.com/2006/10/04/up-yours-canada-en-francais-pour-les-quebecois/#comment-1195 Wyatt, as you know, I'm no fan of Canadian bureaucracy, which is Kafkaesque and soul-destroying. Something about "the letter killeth"--the Canadian government seems to have forgotten the second part of the quotation. I agree with you that the US shouldn't make you play ball with Canadian bureaucrats, and I loved your conclusion at the end! In any case, good luck! Wyatt, as you know, I’m no fan of Canadian bureaucracy, which is Kafkaesque and soul-destroying. Something about “the letter killeth”–the Canadian government seems to have forgotten the second part of the quotation. I agree with you that the US shouldn’t make you play ball with Canadian bureaucrats, and I loved your conclusion at the end! In any case, good luck!

]]> by: daeguowl http://sojuandi.blogsome.com/2006/10/04/up-yours-canada-en-francais-pour-les-quebecois/#comment-1193 Thu, 05 Oct 2006 03:11:48 +0100 http://sojuandi.blogsome.com/2006/10/04/up-yours-canada-en-francais-pour-les-quebecois/#comment-1193 You'd best watch out for Canadian bureacrats.... http://www.lostnomad.org/?p=3605 You’d best watch out for Canadian bureacrats….
http://www.lostnomad.org/?p=3605

]]> by: Mitch http://sojuandi.blogsome.com/2006/10/04/up-yours-canada-en-francais-pour-les-quebecois/#comment-1192 Wed, 04 Oct 2006 08:01:12 +0100 http://sojuandi.blogsome.com/2006/10/04/up-yours-canada-en-francais-pour-les-quebecois/#comment-1192 Citibank (in Japan at least) deals in a wide range of currencies, including Canadian dollars. I can get them to send money around the world (electronically) in all major currencies. It might be that the international exchange bank underestimated what Citibank would be able to do. (Not a spam from Citibank) The old Canadian passports required photos with a matte finish. Try to get passport pictures with a matte finish in Japan! I had to have a portrait photo taken, then ask for tiny copies in matte. That problem solved, the instructions required that there be a white space at the bottom of the photos, for my signature or something. I spent days trying to figure out how to comply with that requirement and finally called the Canadian Embassy. Answer: Oh, just ignore that. On the other hand, I have to get on my hands and knees and thank the Canadian Government for unifying the pension systems between Japan and Canada. It used to be that the years I spent paying into the Canadian system would go to waste, and the years I have spent paying into the Japanese system would not be enough for me to get a pension until I'm really old. But the Canadian and Japanese governments together have unified the systems, so that expatriate Canadians and Japanese people in my situation can get a pension. That's great! (Not a spam from the Canadian Government) Citibank (in Japan at least) deals in a wide range of currencies,
including Canadian dollars. I can get them to send money around the world (electronically)
in all major currencies. It might be that the international exchange bank underestimated what Citibank would be able to do.
(Not a spam from Citibank)
The old Canadian passports required photos with a matte finish. Try to get passport pictures with a matte finish in Japan! I had to have a portrait photo taken, then ask for tiny copies in matte. That problem solved, the instructions required that there be a white space at the bottom of the photos, for my signature or something. I spent days trying to figure out how to comply with that requirement and finally called the Canadian Embassy. Answer: Oh, just ignore that.
On the other hand, I have to get on my hands and knees and thank the Canadian Government for unifying the pension systems between Japan and Canada. It used to be that the years I spent paying into the Canadian system would go to waste, and the years I have spent paying into the Japanese system would not be enough for me to get a pension until I’m really old. But the Canadian and Japanese governments together have unified the systems, so that expatriate Canadians and Japanese people in my situation can get a pension. That’s great! (Not a spam from the Canadian Government)

]]> by: daeguowl http://sojuandi.blogsome.com/2006/10/04/up-yours-canada-en-francais-pour-les-quebecois/#comment-1191 Wed, 04 Oct 2006 03:38:44 +0100 http://sojuandi.blogsome.com/2006/10/04/up-yours-canada-en-francais-pour-les-quebecois/#comment-1191 You'd best hope she doesn't have an outstanding warrant for something trivial like 노상방뇨... You’d best hope she doesn’t have an outstanding warrant for something trivial like 노상방뇨…

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